This is a special podcast that I’ve been working on since June. I first heard about Matan Yaffe from a friend in April. He was founding a new political party and the platform was generating real excitement. The founders - including Matan - were all over Israel constantly hosting evening information sessions. Very grassroots and spreading like wildfire. So I reached out to Matan and we had several long chats, some recorded, some not. He is at the forefront of what could be a seismic political change in Israel in the near future.
The result of our discussions is this longer podcast; a two part interview with Matan who - along with several colleagues - has founded El HaDegel. It translates in English as “To the Flag.” They are a movement and political party that will run in the next elections.
El HaDegel’s core principle is a concept that was central to the vision of David Ben Gurion and the founding mothers and fathers: mamlachti’ut. And that roughly translates to putting the state first. Service. Leave no one behind. No “special deals.” Israeli society is being torn apart from the inside, never mind our external enemies. Three years of domestic conflict, including two years of war, have drained the count of resources - physical and psychological. And Matan Yaffe and his colleagues believe they understand why and propose a solution. They advocate a reformed Israel in which all citizens work and serve the state - whether through the military or in a civilian context. No exceptions. And that is the platform on which they are running - and polling strongly. There are now two parties - El HaDegel and Miluimnikim (which translates as “reservists”) which have been founded recently by IDF reserve soldiers who believe that the state is long overdue for a constitutional rebuild. If not, many worry, it will face a multi-faceted existential crisis.
Matan and his colleagues are energetic, smart, accomplished and determined. We get into all the tough issues in this two part podcast, and I know you will learn much from our discussion. I certainly did.
My brief introduction to this podcast is audio only but for those who prefer to watch on YouTube the main podcast is full audio visual. It’s been little challenging lately - I’ve been traveling a lot - and finding a place with the right light, etc, is not as easy as you would think.
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Podcast Notes
Matan Yaffe’s social media links (predominantly in Hebrew):
Matan Yafe on IG (post in English)
El HaDegel social media links (in Hebrew):
Matan Yaffe is an Israeli civic leader, reservist, and social entrepreneur dedicated to renewing Zionism for our time. A Major (Res.) in the IDF Commando Brigade with more than 370 reserve days since October 7, he has combined frontline service with groundbreaking civic initiatives from founding Desert Stars, which cultivates Bedouin leadership in the Negev, to co-founding the Shoresh Fund, which invests in ventures strengthening Israel’s resilience.
A graduate of Harvard Kennedy School, he also secured a landmark settlement that forced Harvard to adopt the IHRA definition of antisemitism. Today, as a founding leader of El HaDegel, Yaffe is helping shape a new Zionist movement born from the fire of October 7th: one country, one people, united by collective responsibility and equal service, determined to break the cycle of left-versus-right tribalism and rebuild Israel on the foundations of security, shared sacrifice, and moral clarity of our moral right to live as free people in the land of Israel.
